The Parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus. I understand the main point of this parable. But there is a phrase within it that has perplexed me. I haven’t yet found anything online that explains it and my Bible Commentary was also not helpful.
In Luke 16:26 Jesus says:
26Moreover, between us and you a great chasm is established to prevent anyone from crossing who might wish to go from our side to yours or from your side to ours.’
I get why someone who is separated from God and in Hell would want to cross over into Heaven. But part of what Jesus says is that this chasm exists to “prevent anyone from crossing who might wish to go from our side to yours”.
Why in the world would anyone want to leave heaven and go to hell?
The best I have been able to fathom is that the most saintly people who want to save as many souls for God as possible (ie. St. Therese of Lisieux) may be tempted to pop out of heaven for a few moments, visit Hell, and work to convert a soul so as to save it and get it to heaven.
There would otherwise be no leaving of heaven since heaven, once attained, means eternal presence as a beloved with the beloved. Being with God is perfection.
But then again, when a soul decides at its particular judgment whether it is worthy of heaven or of hell based on what one did in one’s life — I thought that was pretty final. I don’t know how that can change.
One can pray for the souls in Purgatory and have it make a difference in getting them closer to heaven. But I’ve not heard of anyone being able to pray for a soul in hell and having it change the soul’s fate from ever leaving hell.
I could really use a theologian here because no one seems to pay any heed to this verse, but it seems like it is worth contemplating to some degree.
The Parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus.*
19“There was a rich man* who dressed in purple garments and fine linen and dined sumptuously each day.
20And lying at his door was a poor man named Lazarus, covered with sores,i
21who would gladly have eaten his fill of the scraps that fell from the rich man’s table. Dogs even used to come and lick his sores.
22When the poor man died, he was carried away by angels to the bosom of Abraham. The rich man also died and was buried,
23and from the netherworld,* where he was in torment, he raised his eyes and saw Abraham far off and Lazarus at his side.
24And he cried out, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me. Send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, for I am suffering torment in these flames.’
25Abraham replied, ‘My child, remember that you received what was good during your lifetime while Lazarus likewise received what was bad; but now he is comforted here, whereas you are tormented.j
26Moreover, between us and you a great chasm is established to prevent anyone from crossing who might wish to go from our side to yours or from your side to ours.’
27He said, ‘Then I beg you, father, send him to my father’s house,
28for I have five brothers, so that he may warn them, lest they too come to this place of torment.’
29But Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the prophets. Let them listen to them.’
30* He said, ‘Oh no, father Abraham, but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’
31Then Abraham said, ‘If they will not listen to Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded if someone should rise from the dead.’”k

while I am not a theologian per se, here are my immediate thoughts on this question. I also found that part of the verse kind of odd, “why would anyone want to leave heaven to go to hell even for a visit?” I am guessing that you are Catholic by referring to purgatory. I don’t believe the Bible supports the idea of purgatory. Once we find ourselves in heaven or in hell that is where we will be for all eternity. And in no way can we earn our way to heaven. Salvation is completely 100% a gift from God only found in Jesus Christ. So I don’t think anyone in heaven would want to cross over in the hopes of “saving a soul” for they know that is not possible. My only and immediate thought is that most everyone in heaven would want to cross over into hell just so they could give temporary relief and comfort to loved ones that they know are there. But there is a problem with this because in heaven there is no “weeping or sorrow” so for me to have memory of a loved one that is now in hell I think would cause me to weep and have great sorrow while I am in heaven. I tend to think that in heaven we will have no memory of the pain suffering or lost loved ones. I know this doesn’t answer your question but it’s a different perspective. God bless!
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The problem with people trying to interpret scripture is mot believing it means exactly what it says, no more and no less. When you start adding your own thoughts and interpretation to it you are kot only being mislead but you’re confusing and misleading others as well. You need to talk to a preacher who is actually sent by God who will give you to truth of scripture and stop trying to figure it out yourself. God said He would freely give wisdom to whoever ask. So ask.
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This site includes my personal interpretation of Scripture. This article might be helpful in understanding a Catholic approach to this: https://www.catholic.com/qa/does-the-catechism-encourage-private-interpretation-of-the-bible. I appreciate you sharing your thoughts and you are right – I wouldn’t want anyone to read this and be confused or misled and think it is an official teaching when it is simply my own personal interpretation. It is a beautiful gift from God that we each get to know him personally and connect with him in a variety of ways. We can look to the Church for the authentic interpretation of Scripture and deepen or correct our understanding/thoughts at the same time we can explore a prompting of the Holy Spirit or a thought that crosses our minds –searching for wisdom and hopefully being guided to the Truth as God draws us closer and closer to himself.
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